Having a midnight laughter – rebranded TYPO3 newsthread

Stuck in work process I launched Thunderbird to skim through the TYPO3 newslists. Apparently I haven’t checked that one for some time since Thunderbird suggested me to get the latest 500 posts :) Anyway. There was a really funny, or should I say sad, posting about a Russian rebrand/fork of TYPO3. First he uses a pseudonym posting news about a fork, then he denies ‘borrowing’ TYPO3 code and icons, finaly changing into admiting having to change a few lines of code and some icons.. doh.. – check out the site and judge for yourself.

It’s really sad that people just can’t see the fundamental philosophy of TYPO3 and the intentions of it’s original inventor Kasper Skårhöj, releasing his work as GPL:d open source software – Inspire people to share!

I few days earlier I stumbled upon a swedish fork/overlay work of TYPO3 called TYPO3 magenta. I got the similar feelings over this one as with that Russian guys fork. Though this is a bit more balancing on the edge. The TYPO3 name is still there but with a suffix. It’s open stated to be built on TYPO3. From the website (freely translated from Swedish using google..):

“TYPO3 Magenta is a web-based system to manage, organize and publish content on websites. TYPO3 Magenta is a further development of the publishing tool TYPO3. TYPO3 is based on open source which means significantly lower costs compared with commercial counterparts. TYPO3 Magenta has developed with the user in focus. The primary user group is Swedish small-and medium-sized enterprises.”

It’s sold in a license form with system, hosting and support.

But as I said, I find this solution better – while not good. I’m guessing it’s mostly about a nifty back end skinn. Refactoring TYPO3 this way is like saying “TYPO3 is good but old school. We make it modern and better with our own version”. And the main issue is still – what would a company loose going 100% TYPO3 and sharing improvements rather then trying to be so special?

I will be honest. We started our business with two CMS solutions. CMS made simple and TYPO3. One simple CMS for the simple sites and one advanced for the larger ones. We promoted them as simple and advanced cms. However during time I realized that both we and the solutions themselves would benefit much more exposing TYPO3 as it is, with it’s huge community and existing brand name rather then trying to make it seem more like our own, and so far it’s just been true. I think that the more credibility and reward the community gets for it’s efforts the better TYPO3 will be.

After all, the community is a vital part of TYPO3 together with it’s open source base. Alongside with that TYPO3 is also a very strong brand and should be promoted and empowered so.

Inspire people to share! – it will get us so much further

4 Responses to “Having a midnight laughter – rebranded TYPO3 newsthread”

  1. Konstantin Says:

    Hello!

    Thanks for posting! Really Telenok is Open Source, and not rebranding Typo3. Current version will be modified for changing CSS and design.

    Hope you should test CMS :

    Demo-site is accessible to the address:

    frontend : telenok.net

    backend : telenok.net/cmf/ [ login : admin, password : 11111 ]

  2. David Smeringe Says:

    Konstantin,

    I tried your cms. I also took some time checking the source code. It makes me a bit baffled that you still (referring to the newslist thread) state that it’s just about some css and design. Checking at the source shows a lot of traces of TYPO3 code. One is the xml2array function in the cmf_div class and having code comments there like

    @param string The tag-prefix resolve, eg. a namespace like “T3:”

    makes you wonder..

    Btw. Check this screen http://people.merea.se/david/dump/code_compare_telenok_typo3.jpg .. are you the author? c’mon ;)

    In the current available source you quietly removed the “TYPO3″ word in the title tag from the cmf/border.html file (noted by Georg Ringer in the thread). But honestly – that doesn’t make it your code does it?

    And – more or less all the all icons and most css is “TYPO3 property” afaik – and therefor your cms automatically falls under GPL license which you are not utilizing.

    But sure – you’ve done quite a bit of work with it. And a lot of the code is not TYPO3 code. But that’s not really the point. It’s still a huge violation against the GPL license (which again you are not using) and bad behavior against the original authors and their work.

    so, sorry Konstantin. But I’m just not buying it.

  3. Konstantin Says:

    Hello :)

    You can use cms free for own application. Of course, i’ll try change code – i sent mess in maillist for criticism only, to know what need to change.

  4. Robert Says:

    I totally agree why not make the plattform stronger instead.

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